Ancient places in CroALa

Pass One: handmade links, taken from an index to Juraj Šižgorić.

Places included in the Pleiades Project can also be found as a collection there: Places in Sisgoreus. Thanks to the KML file the Pleiades system produces, there is also a Google Map of Šižgorić's places.

Note that the links in the second column of the following list lead to searches over all texts in CroALa. That way we're building an index not only to Šižgorić, but to Šižgorić's places throughout the collection.

Place CroALa Place Id Qualification etc.
Acheron ACH?ER[OU]N.* (62) VIAF A fictional place
Antikyra ANTICIR* (11) Antikyra in Pleiades A real place
Aulis AULID* (3) Aulis in Pleiades A real place
Byzantium BI[SZ]ANTI.* (50) Byzantium in Pleiades A real place
Delphi DELPH?I[^ND]* (31) Delphi in Pleiades A real place - NB! In CroALa “Delphi” can refer to Delft as well.
Elysium ELISIA.* (7) VIAF A fictional place
Italia ITALI[^CDZS].* (492) Italia in Pleiades A real place
Lesbos LESB.* (90) Lesbos in Pleiades A real place
Parnassus PARNAS?S[IOU][^D]* (66) Parnassus in Pleiades A real place (?)
Patavium PATAUI.* (81) Patavium in Pleiades A real place
Roma ROMA etc. (1345) Roma in Pleiades A real place
Sarmatia, Sarmatae, Sauromatae SAU?RO?MAT.* (80) Sarmatia etc. in Pleiades A real place (people)
Sibenicus S[EI]B[EI]NIC.* (162), SICUM.*, SICI, SICENS.* (13) VIAF; cf. Siculi in Pleiades A real place, non-classical1)
Smyrna SMIRN.* (27) Smyrna in Pleiades A real place
Tartarus TH?ARTH?AR.* (259) A fictional place
Tergeste TERGEST.* (93) Tergeste in Pleiades A real place
Tagus TH?AGU[MS].* or TH?AGI.* (38) Tagus in Pleiades A real place (river)
Tragurium TRAGURIE?NS?.* or TRA[GC]URI[UIO]* (155) Tragurium in Pleiades A real place
Troia2) TROI[AEC].* (148) Ilium/Troia in Pleiades A real place
Tyrus3) tyrI[^N]* (104) Tyrus in Pleiades A real place
Venetiae UENET.[^R]* (1228) VIAF: Venice (Republic : to 1797); in GeoNames A real place, non-classical
Verona UERON[^I].* (60) Verona in Pleiades A real place
Vicentia UICENT.* or UICETIN.* (17) Vicetia in Pleiades A real place

Questions

What do we do with fictional places?

What do we do with borderline cases, places which are real and fictional as well? Are there degrees of fictionality?4)

Should we consider all places mentioned in the belles lettres (esp. in neo-Latin literature) actually fictional?

What do we do with rhetorical, not referential, uses of a name (Ignjat Đurđević writes about ”a hundred Romes”)?

What do we do when two places share a name (Delphi in Greece and in the Netherlands)?

What to do with ethnonyms used metonymically (Itali, Italici, Italidae = Italia)? — In Pleiades they are treated as a place name, cf. e. g. the Sauromatae.5)

How to treat adjectives (e. g. Patavina, which can collocate with urbs, but not necessarily)?

What, if anything, does the number of occurrences imply?

1) Sicum in older editions of Pliny 3, 26. Modern accepted reading in this passage is Siculi.
2) And what about Ilium?
3) And the adjective Tyrius!
4) Sean Gillies writes: Pleiades has at least 94 fictional places. These are typically the inventions or mistakes of single ancient or 19th century authors identified during the compilation of the Barrington Atlas and not major mythical places. Pleiades has real places that are well mixed up with fiction, such as the place Roman authors believed was the legendary island of the Lotus eaters. The data model can accommodate truly mythical places, but the editors of the project would need to discuss whether those are in the scope of Pleiades.
5) Pleiades Project recently thought about fictional people too: placetype: people, description: “An ancient people whose precise localization cannot be determined today.”
 
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